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The Lost Machine Automats and Self-Service Cafeterias of NYC (2023)

The automat is something of a strange echo from my childhood.

When I was maybe 5 or so, my mom took my sister and I to Chicago from Kansas City. That train ride in and of itself is something of time capsule in my memory. My sister remembered the glowing handrails (radium?). I remember the lounge car where passengers sipped cocktails and watched the lights at night rush past outside. The women dressing, in my fuzzy recollection, like extras in The Thin Man.

Chicago was where I got to buy a pie, or some kind of dessert, from an automat. What a magical thing to give a kid some coins and just tell them to go grab what they like…

There are a number of things from my childhood that I came to find later were just gone. (Or obscure now to the point they are essentially gone.) Imagine my delight when the film Dark City featured an automat.

I was surprised in Tokyo to find something of a hybrid. Those places where you place your order, pay through something like a vending machine at the entrance of the place. The order goes back to the kitchen and, after you've sat down and waited a short time, your order is up.

Struck me as an efficient way to not have to have someone running a cash register, seating you, taking your order.

Also, there's a documentary called "The Automat" [1] that I tracked down just recently—have not yet watched. (Looks like it's streaming on Amazon, FWIW.)

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4554690/

5 hours agoJKCalhoun

> My sister remembered the glowing handrails (radium?)

That reminded me of the "glowy tape" my brother and I used to play with when we were kids. It had come from my grandparents' estate, and we had no idea what it was for, but it was fun. My father thought it was from WWII, as he had vague memories of it being used to mark the corners of furniture during 'lights out' air raid drills. I now assume it was radium, and am not overly happy with my childhood self playing with it.

5 hours agotechnothrasher

> Those places where you place your order, pay through something like a vending machine at the entrance of the place. The order goes back to the kitchen and, after you've sat down and waited a short time, your order is up.

I know those places but at this point the USA seems full of them, or at least LA/SF. They aren't the same style as the Japanese ones but there are tons of places in California where you can walk in and order from a touchscreen and they just call your number when your order is ready.

5 hours agosocalgal2

I saw that first at McDonald's. Also just about any place that has an app or website to order is effectively like that.

4 hours agowffurr

The examples at the link are mostly from around midcentury. I'm familiar with a more recent example: In 2006-2009, there was one of those on St. Mark's Place -- 8th street between 2nd and 3rd. It was called "Bamn!" and IIRC was open 24/7, so it mostly catered to late-night drinkers and partiers. (It happened to be on one of NYC's few streets that always had lively nightlife, even during the week.) It was cheap, at something like $1 or $2 for a burger, and it was reasonably good.

There's a pic: https://www.flickr.com/photos/93779577@N00/4235886625

It was a fun place. Wish there were more like it.

5 hours agoA_D_E_P_T

Thank you! I was wondering if I had imagined that.

an hour agoqgin

Highly recommend the 2021 documentary "The Automat" if you're into this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Automat

an hour agoEvanAnderson

I was just about to post the same thing. It's a very enjoyable watch. Quite light and digestible (~80 min runtime) and featuring Mel Brooks and Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Currently streaming for free on Kanopy, which is often available through local public libraries.

an hour agoevanelias

It’s interesting how the Automat is basically the opposite of the Subway/Chipotle/salad shop model that now dominates casual dining.

Instead of, here are all our ingredients, which do you want, it’s a precise set of premade meals with no substitutions.

5 hours agosmelendez

I started dieting recently and I've come to understand the people who say that American portions are huge. An automat lets you sample a bunch of different stuff instead of the typical fast-food format of a main, french fries, and a drink each in a too-large portion. I'd like something like that.

3 hours agoa_shovel

This is so interesting. I remember as a child my family would go to S&S Cafeterias, and Piccadilly. It was like the lunch line at school. Regrettably the closest I've gotten to an automat was when I taught in a prison, the classroom had vending machines of sandwiches, desserts, etc.

I think we still have automats. Ikea cafe for example, the cafeteria in the basement of the Natural History and Science Museum in Washington, D.C., any number of places where you get food, checkout, sit, eat, leave without interacting with anyone.

5 hours agoMolitor5901

Ya'll need a trip to Japan. So many versions of the automat approach. One favorite is ガスト (Gusto). Self seat, Order from the tablet at your table, food delivered by a rolling robot with "Kitty" theme, and self checkout with the reciept/ticket at an unstaffed kiosk. They put all of the human labor effort into kitchen staff and great ingredients. Better food than the best Denny's or IHOP in the heyday of the late 80s or early 90s, and breakfast for two totaling under 12 dollars. Its a winning twist on Automat, and other examples of this are around the corner in almost every town. Its the future we were promised in the 50s that never got delivered beyond some Art Deco public works buildings.

5 hours agonotrustincloud

If you haven't seen it, "The Devil and Miss Jones" (1941) stars Jean Arthur and Charles Coburn and features a food fight in an automat.

Here's another one with Jean Arthur at automat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIfzFGAAOyk

5 hours agoshermantanktop

Also Dark City

4 hours agoclass3shock

The H&H style is enchanting. Not sure why but I like it.

6 hours agomarkus_zhang

Art Deco has always been one of the best architectural styles, IMHO. I also like the pseudo-classical Greek design often found in American government buildings in small towns (city hall, the public library, and so on). They're very different styles, yet they complement each other nicely.

5 hours agormunn

Yeah, and the font is pretty good!