Imagine having these sort of warrants hanging over your head and just casually deciding to do a little international traveling. Guys like this are constantly getting nabbed this way. I wonder if being a wanted man for so long has some sort of psychological effect that makes people take more risks to get it over with.
I imagine the general assumption is that you don't realize that you've been ID'ed. That they traveled before and nothing happened so traveling again isn't a big deal because all the "tricks" they used to cover their tracks worked.
I would imagine that is lot more likely that is just only the official story rather than what actually happens behind the scenes in these situations.
In the background there could be deals with the countries protecting them or with the target directly or a existing deal they had is off now. It may even be unrelated, wasn't worth expending the diplomatic capital before, but they are a connection to someone else more important and so on.
It could also be the targets were captured in a illegal way, no country wants to be diplomatically humiliated and the prosecuting one wouldn't want to disclose their covert ops capabilities.
Announced News is more often only a Press Release, we shouldn't be taking them literally.
How can you ID these guys if they get a new passport. Changed hairstyle and do some surgery to the face?
Their name and date of birth?
Hypothetically, how would someone know there was a warrant out for their arrest in another country? That doesn’t seem like public information.
I figure most cyber criminals assume they are untraceable until they get arrested.
interpol
From the other point of view, the abundance of stories when the high-profile criminal was catched doing something stupid, and the relative absence of ones when the criminal was catched in some clever way may mean the law enforcement is doing their job poorly.
Operation Flagship in 1985 was one of the clever ones -- US marshalls nabbed 101 wanted fugitives on a single day at a stadium, where they were expecting to receive two free tickets to an NFL game...
> At least half of the 3,309 fugitives arrested in FIST VII were later released on bail
Lmfao god bless America right?
That reminds me of one of my favorite lines in one of my favorite movies, Thank You for Smoking. seriously if you are reading this and have not watched it, stop what you’re doing and go watch it right now.
Nick Naylor’s (a tobacco lobbyist) son asks, “dad, why is America the greatest country in the world?” Nick is reading something, doesn’t look up and takes a slight beat to think about it, then just calmly responds, “our endless appeal system.”
That movie is unbelievable. I know out of context that line just seems like edge lord nonsense, but Aaron Eckhardt (sp?) just sells it so hard.
When you're living in the Russian-occupied part of Ukraine (Donetsk), I can see why you might run that risk.
This was a Ukranian national, not a Russian.
Yes and the sealed indictment from 2012 was unsealed in 2014, the same year as the Russian invasion of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, which was also the direct trigger for Ukraine switching from a non-aligned position to seeking very close cooperation from the US.
I can very easily see how home in both the narrow regional and broad national sense could have become quite risky for a number of reasons for him from 2014 on.
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The human brain is just really bad at evaluating risk, especially over long periods of time. A lot of people are wanted overseas for years or even decades without anything happening, which makes it hard to maintain the mindset of being at risk without falling back to "eh, I've been fine this long"; a lot of them do foreign travel anyway and get away with it, which makes it hard to not fall into "what's one more vacation to a extradition-friendly country".
Italian and Greek airports: the bane of otherwise untouchable slavic cybercriminals since 1994
> Sources close to the investigation say Yuriy Igorevich Rybtsov, a 41-year-old from the Russia-controlled city of Donetsk, Ukraine
I don't think it was casual traveling but getting out of a wartorn country.
«The Jabber Zeus name is derived from the malware they used — a custom version of the ZeuS banking trojan — that stole banking login credentials and would send the group a Jabber instant message each time a new victim entered a one-time passcode at a financial institution website. The gang targeted mostly small to mid-sized businesses, and they were an early pioneer of so-called “man-in-the-browser” attacks, malware that can silently intercept any data that victims submit in a web-based form.»
Imagine having these sort of warrants hanging over your head and just casually deciding to do a little international traveling. Guys like this are constantly getting nabbed this way. I wonder if being a wanted man for so long has some sort of psychological effect that makes people take more risks to get it over with.
I imagine the general assumption is that you don't realize that you've been ID'ed. That they traveled before and nothing happened so traveling again isn't a big deal because all the "tricks" they used to cover their tracks worked.
I would imagine that is lot more likely that is just only the official story rather than what actually happens behind the scenes in these situations.
In the background there could be deals with the countries protecting them or with the target directly or a existing deal they had is off now. It may even be unrelated, wasn't worth expending the diplomatic capital before, but they are a connection to someone else more important and so on.
It could also be the targets were captured in a illegal way, no country wants to be diplomatically humiliated and the prosecuting one wouldn't want to disclose their covert ops capabilities.
Announced News is more often only a Press Release, we shouldn't be taking them literally.
How can you ID these guys if they get a new passport. Changed hairstyle and do some surgery to the face?
Their name and date of birth?
Hypothetically, how would someone know there was a warrant out for their arrest in another country? That doesn’t seem like public information.
I figure most cyber criminals assume they are untraceable until they get arrested.
interpol
From the other point of view, the abundance of stories when the high-profile criminal was catched doing something stupid, and the relative absence of ones when the criminal was catched in some clever way may mean the law enforcement is doing their job poorly.
Operation Flagship in 1985 was one of the clever ones -- US marshalls nabbed 101 wanted fugitives on a single day at a stadium, where they were expecting to receive two free tickets to an NFL game...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Flagship
> At least half of the 3,309 fugitives arrested in FIST VII were later released on bail
Lmfao god bless America right?
That reminds me of one of my favorite lines in one of my favorite movies, Thank You for Smoking. seriously if you are reading this and have not watched it, stop what you’re doing and go watch it right now.
Nick Naylor’s (a tobacco lobbyist) son asks, “dad, why is America the greatest country in the world?” Nick is reading something, doesn’t look up and takes a slight beat to think about it, then just calmly responds, “our endless appeal system.”
That movie is unbelievable. I know out of context that line just seems like edge lord nonsense, but Aaron Eckhardt (sp?) just sells it so hard.
When you're living in the Russian-occupied part of Ukraine (Donetsk), I can see why you might run that risk.
This was a Ukranian national, not a Russian.
Yes and the sealed indictment from 2012 was unsealed in 2014, the same year as the Russian invasion of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine, which was also the direct trigger for Ukraine switching from a non-aligned position to seeking very close cooperation from the US.
I can very easily see how home in both the narrow regional and broad national sense could have become quite risky for a number of reasons for him from 2014 on.
The human brain is just really bad at evaluating risk, especially over long periods of time. A lot of people are wanted overseas for years or even decades without anything happening, which makes it hard to maintain the mindset of being at risk without falling back to "eh, I've been fine this long"; a lot of them do foreign travel anyway and get away with it, which makes it hard to not fall into "what's one more vacation to a extradition-friendly country".
Italian and Greek airports: the bane of otherwise untouchable slavic cybercriminals since 1994
> Sources close to the investigation say Yuriy Igorevich Rybtsov, a 41-year-old from the Russia-controlled city of Donetsk, Ukraine
I don't think it was casual traveling but getting out of a wartorn country.
«The Jabber Zeus name is derived from the malware they used — a custom version of the ZeuS banking trojan — that stole banking login credentials and would send the group a Jabber instant message each time a new victim entered a one-time passcode at a financial institution website. The gang targeted mostly small to mid-sized businesses, and they were an early pioneer of so-called “man-in-the-browser” attacks, malware that can silently intercept any data that victims submit in a web-based form.»
There is a bbc podcast[0] about evilcorp
[0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct89y8
The included photos are glorious
Straight out of the 2001 film Swordfish
This is how I want to picture Russian hackers and they didn’t disappoint.