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Broccoli Man, Remastered

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI.

>In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI.

BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a shared culture. That world existed it can still exist unless we surrender to the depravity of conformity and comfortability.

an hour agoTheGamerUncle

So much of what makes people willing to be moved by creative art is the willingness to believe they're investing in someone else's real thoughts & effort -- and opening themselves to a channel of real human connection & relationship.

AI has raised the bar, in terms of making it more difficult to create the trust necessary for people to be willing to open themselves up to that connection.

24 minutes agoboplicity

the deadpan emotionless delivery of the original memes are an important part of their humor. this remaster looks fancy but loses the entire spirit of the thing

3 hours agoefficax

It's differently good. Impressive (but less funny).

24 minutes agounderdeserver

"only if you are Yahoo!" is one of the best line reads of all time.

30 minutes agocflewis

Yeah, the only way this is funnier is when the AI does something weird

2 hours agomorshu9001

blooper reel is gold.

2 hours agodonalhunt

Agreed. It's completely lost its original charm. This is AI slop.

an hour ago1970-01-01

I would have kicked up the 4d3d3d3. Maybe thrown in a hat wobble.

4 hours agoparpfish

I thought/hoped that's what this thread was about.

3 hours agofugalfervor

Different vegetable. But that was a prescient vision of modern AI.

14 minutes agoares623

I do wish they updated this to 2026 google! I don’t think it would be nearly as interesting though since they do get rid of most red tape but since everything is enterprise scale, it’s never easy.

5 hours agohaburka

Huh?

The bureaucracy is way worse. BCID requirements. MDBs that take 4+ hours to roll out. The Byzantine array of different MDB group types, often with two party control. GDPR company compliance. Tagging proto fields with provenance. Documents are private by default now. Most support happens in chat groups, and is if you're not at deepmind your help requests are getting ignored. Spending a month filing GUTS tickets to get your intern access to basic tools. XManager idle pruning. GCP automated boq setup/teardown tools usually fail and you have to fall back to getting support from a contractor 12 time zones away.

3 hours agohiddencost

I wish that the remake focused on the new bureaucracy stuff (or even new technical stuff), instead of being a near 1-for-1 rehash of the old one. E.g. it's not like anyone is being recommended to serve out of a bigtable for the last decade or whatever. But it's also not like the replacement(s) are problem-free when it comes to quota, etc.

an hour agodmoy

bless, but hearing people say this version is "better" makes me want to walk into the sea.

2 hours agopjjw

I want to see MongoDB is webscale as a sequel.

5 hours agoahoka

The jankiness of the original had a lot of charm, almost selling the dystopian absurdity of trying to deploy a service via the janky voice and slightly desync'd audio and animation. I don't think it's just nostalgia, because I felt the same way watching it the first time all those years ago.

I think AI slop is decidedly different, because it just doesn't have the charm. I don't know if I can yet decompose exactly why that is.

2 hours agomcqueenjordan

This is 100% AI slop, cool story and all but I'd 100 times rather see a very poorly drawn 2007 animation than any of this.

3 hours agojesucresta

Tbf, the original is also slop (albeit of the pre-AI variety)

3 hours agoswiftcoder

no is not, the original is full of personality and ideas even if its poorly drawn and kitsch.

3 hours agojesucresta

Xtranormal was slop, you just plugged in a script and chose premade character models

10 minutes agoRebelgecko

Yes, but also literally AI slop. Stock characters auto-puppeted to a text script with text-to-voice run across it. The artist's input was writing the text and signing off on the final auto-generated product. The reason the two characters in the video are weird superheroes is those were the available stock characters in the XtraNormal.com service he used.

After all, the creator didn't want to be an professinal full-time animator, he just wanted to animate three minutes.

3 hours agoshadowgovt

It is only "literally AI slop" if you widen the definition to include anything made using computers. That is not an honest take on what content made with AI is.

The original author chose those assets and that background, other people made those assets on the first place and had to take a ton of tiny creative choices that changed the final thing and help transmit ideas and feelings (of uncanniness, vulgarity, surrealism, whatever).

Anyone can tell the difference between one and the other.

2 hours agojesucresta

Text to speech in the 2000s would be considered AI

2 hours agomorshu9001

The things we called AI back then weren't AI. The things we call AI now aren't AI either. The definition remains wide.

an hour agocaymanjim

Sounds like Humpty-Dumpty.

25 minutes agoSoftTalker

> Yes, but also literally AI slop. Stock characters auto-puppeted to a text script with text-to-voice run across it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I would say that the slop feeling of the original version was a deliberate decision and part of its charm. That kind of video and voices were a meme back then, IIRC.

2 hours agodarkwater

If the tech stack used to make that video makes it "AI slop" then every video game cutscene is AI slop.

2 hours agohbn

video game cutscenes usually involve real artists designing and animating the characters, not just using preset stock characters

an hour agoparpfish

Oh we’re at this stage of AI huh :)

“No it was always slop!!!! Nyeh!”

2 hours agolanyard-textile

Kinda shocked at how much editing they had to do.

You'd think AI would make it easier to splice together individual clips, but I haven't find a tool that does that well yet. Opus seems tailored for doing fine tuning on long form content like podcasts.

30 minutes agoSpaceManNabs

Is the other character a fox because that's Meta mascot too?

2 hours agosetheron

This is very well done.

I wouldn't and don't consider this to be AI slop. The author's own reflection captures perfectly my own feelings on the matter... intent does matter.

  I think what gets lost in a lot of the AI media discussion is that intent matters. I find auto-generated slop-farm TikToks just as dystopic as the most fervent doomer, but I also remember when I was a 10-year-old kid making movies with my parents’ VHS camcorder and how much fun I would have had learning how to make things if I’d had tools like this.
4 hours agoctippett

According to Kagi, all AI generated content is slop.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/slopstop.html#what-is-co...

3 hours agotantalor

That's a slippery slope, a really slippery slope, especially when it comes to still images. I don't believe video is any different -- intent does matter.

2 hours agoeitally

That is not how Kagi looks at it.

We are marking domains as slop if they contain mostly AI generated content. It is hard to say if a single piece of AI generated content is slop or not (there is useful AI generated content too). But if all the content on a domain is AI generated, it is likely something that people would not like in their results.

34 minutes agofreediver

Kagi is entitled to their opinion. Perhaps worth noting is by that metric the original Broccoli Man video is also slop; it was generated using stock characters, voice synthesis, and auto puppeteering. The only creative input the original "artist" had was writing the text script and signing off on the final output.

Personal opinion, using modern AI slop generation to recreate AI slop from a previous generation of the technology is pretty good art.

3 hours agoshadowgovt

Most meme-worthy content is actual low effort slop. That's the reality of the most recent two decades.

3 hours agoorbital-decay

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4 hours agoJohn-Tony

Very cool! I'd be perfectly happy to watch videos that combine human creativity and choice with AI. I don't consider this kind of video "slop". Once the glitches are eliminated, this workflow will be unstoppable.

5 hours agoglimshe

> Once the glitches are eliminated, this workflow will be unstoppable.

"... unstoppable." - What? I'm genuinely curious. Do you think this type of video is enjoyable? Maybe one, or even two like this is palatable - but I don't see anything 1) interesting or new 2) that would make me want to watch this by choice.

And when everyone is swimming in a sea of this type of work I don't think most people will enjoy it, either. It's also too bad we aren't more cognizant of how we got here, either. All of the artists work that was stolen to generate those images and then the watt hours burned. I'm not saying these types of offerings are completely for naught, but I do think some of these services should be forced to put a few pre or post pended frames that show (like nutrition facts) the environmental impact including model inference and that copyright was violated to make it.

4 hours agowindexh8er

I personally quite enjoy the Gossip Goblin cyberpunk cycle of humanity videos (can find them on reddit/tiktok/yt/elsewhere).

Most of the creativity is clearly from the human driving the AI, but I suspect it would have been borderline impossible to make something like that as an individual without AI.

3 hours agocameronh90

Individuals have been doing this exact thing without AI for years, only better, with actual comedic timing, by just playing both parts. Sometimes they don’t even change clothes and it’s perfectly understandable. It’s a whole meme at this point that a towel on the head of a man signifies a female character, for example. You can find plenty of this on tiktok or instagram.

3 hours agowvbdmp

At least for my enjoyment of the Gossip Goblin videos, the world and aesthetics are pretty critical to it. I wouldn't find it at all compelling if it was just someone in their kitchen playing it themselves. I do like those videos with people playing both parts in other contexts (comedy particularly), but for other types of work, the AI generated videos are doing something that can't really be done yourself unless you become a Blender virtuoso.

3 hours agocameronh90

> I don't see anything interesting or new

What I find so interesting about this is how much is NOT new. It is a highly faithful reproduction of the beloved original.

The difference is the voices and visuals are much higher quality, and there are some added effects and cutaways that are nice touches.

I would still share the original video because it is a useful cultural artifact and teaching tool (as ridiculous as it is), and I would be happy to share this version at the same time, just because it is higher quality.

3 hours agotantalor

Yeah that was actually really funny to watch. And when you see some of the “decisions“ the AI tool makes - especially when they border on the bizarre - it adds another layer to the humor. Strange pauses or proximity/eyeline choices and such that aren’t wrong but definitely a bit weird or awkward