Is this for their in-house development or for their consulting services?
Because the latter would still be indicative of AI hurting entry level hiring since it may signal that other firms are not really willing to hire a full time entry level employee whose job may be obsoleted by AI, and paying for a consultant from IBM may be a lower risk alternative in case AI doesn't pan out.
And if it is for consulting, I doubt very serious they will based in the US. You can’t be priced competitive hiring an entry level consultant in the US and no company is willing to pay the bill rate for US based entry level consultants unless their email address is @amazon.com or @google.com.
Source: current (full time) staff consultant at a third party cloud consulting firm and former consultant (full time) at Amazon.
Why would Amazon bring on a full-time consultant instead of just hiring you?
Interesting given the current age discrimination lawsuit:
Another one? What is it with IBM, they must really save lots of money in a way no one else has figured out by firing people at 50yo. This is like the 3rd or 4th one i've heard from them.
"software engineers will spend less time on routine coding—and more on interacting with customers"
Ahh, what could possibly go wrong!
Why is that bad? You write better code when you actually understand the business domain and the requirement. It's much easier to understand it when you get it direct from the source than filtered down through dozens of product managers and JIRA tickets.
Programmers have an unfortunate tendancy to be too honest!
Aren't those general jobs opening. Like junior swe only needs a single generic posting for all positions
Bold move.
Not because it's wrong, but because it risks initiating the collapse of the AI bubble and the whole "AI is gonna replace all skilled work, any day now, just give us another billion".
Seems like IBM can no longer wait for that day.
Their CEO already said what he's thinking about all the spending [0].
Is IBM invested big in LLMs? I don't get the impression they have much to lose there.
Good. Nobody needs to rip that bandaid off. Might as well be IBM.
I mean it’s IBM. On average, 70% of their decisions are bad ones. Not sure I’d pay a single bit of attention to what they do.
Yeah, they are only 114 years old. How they can have the knowledge to stay afloat in trying times like this?
To a non-technical individual IBM is still seen as a reputable brand (their consulting business would've been bankrupt long ago otherwise) and they will absolutely pay attention.
Tripling entry-level hiring is a good plan.
> Some executives and economists argue that younger workers are a better investment for companies in the midst of technological upheaval.
IBM, in the midst of a tech upheaval? They are so dysfunctional, it's the core of why I left
> In the HR department, entry-level staffers now spend time intervening when HR chatbots fall short, correcting output and talking to managers as needed, rather than fielding every question themselves.
The job is essentially changing from "You have to know what to say, and say it" to "make sure the AI says what you know to be right"
With the workforce may happen like with DRAM and NAND flash memories: unexpected demand in one side leaving without enough offer in other sides.
Is this for their in-house development or for their consulting services?
Because the latter would still be indicative of AI hurting entry level hiring since it may signal that other firms are not really willing to hire a full time entry level employee whose job may be obsoleted by AI, and paying for a consultant from IBM may be a lower risk alternative in case AI doesn't pan out.
And if it is for consulting, I doubt very serious they will based in the US. You can’t be priced competitive hiring an entry level consultant in the US and no company is willing to pay the bill rate for US based entry level consultants unless their email address is @amazon.com or @google.com.
Source: current (full time) staff consultant at a third party cloud consulting firm and former consultant (full time) at Amazon.
Why would Amazon bring on a full-time consultant instead of just hiring you?
Interesting given the current age discrimination lawsuit:
https://www.cohenmilstein.com/case-study/ibm-age-discriminat...
Another one? What is it with IBM, they must really save lots of money in a way no one else has figured out by firing people at 50yo. This is like the 3rd or 4th one i've heard from them.
"software engineers will spend less time on routine coding—and more on interacting with customers"
Ahh, what could possibly go wrong!
Why is that bad? You write better code when you actually understand the business domain and the requirement. It's much easier to understand it when you get it direct from the source than filtered down through dozens of product managers and JIRA tickets.
Programmers have an unfortunate tendancy to be too honest!
I’m a people person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo
https://archive.today/D6Kyc
Probably not on the IBM jobs site yet, where the number of entry level jobs is low compared to the size of the company (~250k):
https://www.ibm.com/careers/search?field_keyword_18[0]=Entry...
Total: 240
United States: 25
India: 29
Canada: 15
Aren't those general jobs opening. Like junior swe only needs a single generic posting for all positions
Bold move.
Not because it's wrong, but because it risks initiating the collapse of the AI bubble and the whole "AI is gonna replace all skilled work, any day now, just give us another billion".
Seems like IBM can no longer wait for that day.
Their CEO already said what he's thinking about all the spending [0].
[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46124324
Is IBM invested big in LLMs? I don't get the impression they have much to lose there.
Good. Nobody needs to rip that bandaid off. Might as well be IBM.
I mean it’s IBM. On average, 70% of their decisions are bad ones. Not sure I’d pay a single bit of attention to what they do.
Yeah, they are only 114 years old. How they can have the knowledge to stay afloat in trying times like this?
To a non-technical individual IBM is still seen as a reputable brand (their consulting business would've been bankrupt long ago otherwise) and they will absolutely pay attention.
Tripling entry-level hiring is a good plan.
> Some executives and economists argue that younger workers are a better investment for companies in the midst of technological upheaval.
IBM, in the midst of a tech upheaval? They are so dysfunctional, it's the core of why I left
> In the HR department, entry-level staffers now spend time intervening when HR chatbots fall short, correcting output and talking to managers as needed, rather than fielding every question themselves.
The job is essentially changing from "You have to know what to say, and say it" to "make sure the AI says what you know to be right"
With the workforce may happen like with DRAM and NAND flash memories: unexpected demand in one side leaving without enough offer in other sides.
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[dupe] Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46995146
Thanks - we-ve merged that thread hither.