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GNU Pies – Program Invocation and Execution Supervisor

Almost 20 years ago now I worked for a company that sat a group of about 25 of us down to talk about their latest survey named...CRMPIES.

Everyone looked at me like I was insane as I sat there chuckling. Thank you for bringing back that unfortunate memory.

an hour agogarciasn

Everyone needs to have made a web framework. Everyone needs to have made a programming language. Everyone needs to have made a supervisor. Everyone has to have made a container manager. Everyone needs to have made a text editor.

2 hours agotete

Absolutely. I recently wrote my first compiler to get it off the bucket list… brainf*ck compiler/interpreter #100010134 or such? :-) Well… it was a fun half hour.

2 hours agobinaryturtle

What's the value of making a supervisor? It seems to be mostly about gluing together some system APIs.

an hour agokillerstorm

In some industries it’s critical. Think about aerospace where code is almost always homegrown or done by specialized company, and are specific implementations for specific needs. You don’t have that many COTS due to the criticality etc.

16 minutes agotrklausss
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2 hours ago

One release every 4 years. So this is like monit or systemd-supervisord and so on, a process manager. I have to say the thing I most enjoy about it is the fact that it's got the classic GNU trend of "here's an obviously pronounceable spelling; let's say it a different way".

2 hours agoarjie

The only thing missing is a recursive acronym e.g. Pies: Pies Is Experimental Software or something equally cringe like Hurd

2 hours agostackghost

Pies is eshewing systemd?

an hour agostevekemp

how about "Active Development" without any progress in 3 decades

an hour agocalvinmorrison

Good to hear that some people out there still have some old-school -style sense of humor.

7 minutes agogary17the

The area where I've seen the most homegrown implementations of things like these is HFT, with the caveat it's also designed to be distributed, integrated with isolation systems, start/stop dependency graphs...

I once worked for a company which chose to use Kubernetes instead, they regretted it.

20 minutes agomgaunard

Are the collection of components run in some kind of namespace? Say I run a Pies for Gitlab (which in itself had lots of components), and I run a Pies for Frpd, do they share the same space or are they isolated from each other? Am I maybe overthinking this? Perhaps its just a program manager.

an hour agoAlifatisk

Is this the gnu version of systemd?

edit: I know it's not a monolith like systemd but service/unit files are a core component of systemd

2 hours agowritten-beyond

systemd is not a monolith.

It's a collection of losely coupled components and services of which basically every single one can be disabled or replaced by another implementation.

2 hours agoeliaspro

It's a collection of tightly-coupled components that are functionally a monolith because large distros tend to rely on the various components rather than allowing modularity.

an hour agostackghost

GNU Shepherd

2 hours agobladeee

"Pies" means "dog" in Polish an Ukrainian (пес).

2 hours agothrow_a_grenade

So, "Gnu is Not Unix, Dawg"?

2 hours agofangorn

Is that pronounced “peace” or “piss”?

2 hours agootterley

More like pi+[y]es, but single syllable and no y.

EDIT: Here are three audio files to hear: https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/pies#pies_(j%C4%99zyk_polski)

2 hours agothrow_a_grenade

> pronounced "p-yes"

Absolutely not.

Apologies to the Slavs, but there’s already a utility pronounced like that.

2 hours agorelaxing

Pies it means "foot" in spanish

2 hours agoevilmonkey19

Plural - “feet”

2 hours agootterley

'a dog' in polish

2 hours agobaq

If you have to explain the pronunciation of the name of your tool in the first sentence, you've already lost.

2 hours agoasa400

Lots of counterexamples to that one.

10 minutes agodb48x

sudo? gnu? mate? debian? ubuntu? suse?

an hour agohiprob

No.