Given that Apple tend to have long periods of crud accumulating and releases becoming slower, buggier and more annoying they should revamp their entire release process and make quality a more prominent part of the release process. Linux did so with its odd/even version numbering to signal which kernels were considered stable and which were development versions.
For each major release cycle the longest part of the cycle should be focused on code quality and cleanup. So that people who depend on the stability of their operating environment can configure the software update process to just wait until a new OS release has gone through a bugfix AND cleanup cycle.
Why spend more time on cleanup that on features? Well, so far it seems to have been the other way around. Which means that everyone has to waste a lot of time while some experimental OS is making your life miserable. People who want to use bleeding edge features can upgrade as soon as a new major release is dropped. But people like me, who depend on their phone and computer to make a living, would rather not be field-testing buggy, slow experimental code.
And not to put too fine a point on it, iOS was crap. And from what I am hearing macOS Tahoe isn't worth the upgrade so I keep clicking away those annoying popups that try to get me to install it.
Yeah, I get it, the guy from marketing isn't going to like it, but we could also stop pretending that every new major release is a gift to humanity. We don't think so and Apple knows it isn't so. Every release comes with dread. What will stop working this time?
It isn't like Apple doesn't have the means to hire developers.
That could is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
If they can't get my keyboard to stop replacing in with inn I don't think they are going to magically fix the battery life hit that comes with every ios update.
Literally all I want from Apple is a year (or multiple) spent laser focused tackling tech debt and improving software performance.
Yep; and all Apple fans ever say is "report feedback!!!" but what is the point when seemingly Apple never gets to their backlog of bugs/broken features? I mean, sure, some big stuff gets fixed, but there is a lot of stuff broken going on years they haven't even touched.
I just madly click on "I Have This Problem Too"
Feedback is more or less a black hole, for the most part. It's rarely paid attention to by a human, and is treated like telemetry. If you want something fixed, it needs to get into the press or go viral.
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I care more about numerous bugs than I do about performance, to be honest. I'm starting to to regret not switching to Android last time I was upgrading my phone. Even if it is the same bugfest, at least I wouldn't have paid premium for the priveledge of using a device that "just doesn't work"
I need three new phones in close future for the family and I think I will go with Google Pixels and GrapheneOS. There is foldable phone available! It’s cheaper, I can deduct phones in full in the same year since the phones are <800€ before taxes (relevant probably only in Germany). And imho Apple’s premium promise is gone with glass design. Too many small errors.
We need another Snow Leopard era.
I want them to have invested in this already so we don't have this miserable shit to deal with.
Just drop the liquid glass farce and you will save 5% battery life already.
ios 27 being ios 26 minus liquid glass is literally the only thing I want from the next ios version.
Same with macOS. I'm sticking with Sequoia, but don't know what to do if macOS 27 turns out to be just as ugly as Tahoe.
Just give me my fucking corners back. I paid good money for them.
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I'm sticking with Sonoma as long as they still provide security updates, then i go +1, hoping to skip the whole liquid glass phase.
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I'd even settle for it being on a switch, call it "minimal UI" or something, but I have a feeling that Apple doesn't work like that. It's burn-the-boats, we're going all in on Glass and there's no going back.
I would like them to also fix all the weird rendering bugs they introduced in Safari.
Though maybe those are also liquid glass’ fault.
Chrome has them too :)
Yeah, because chrome is required to use -safari- webkit too, apple won't allow alternative browsers on the app store.
Except in the EU, but they don't allow it globally so no sane company is going to invest time into building a browser for iOS while apple is intentionally region-locking the ability to install them.
So yeah, on iOS, rendering bugs on Chrome are quite often apple's fault, and the Chrome team can't fix em.
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this would make me so happy!
I wonder if anybody at Apple is bold enough to lose face over this, given that there‘s a leadership shuffle underway.
There's no need to lose face to the vast majority of their customers, who don't read tech blogs or know who Siracusa is.
They can just boldy advance forwarded in a rearward direction and claim whatever they want about it. They've done it multiple times - every new iPhone and iOS has looked "the best and newest" and made the last one that looked the best and newest look old-hat.
They owned their mistake of removing all ports and function keys from MacBook Pros, so there is a chance. That being said, the UI degradation of macOS has been a slow but persistent march for about a decade now, and I don't imagine it will change now.
I thought the person responsible was already gone...
People keep blaming Alan Dye as if he was the only one responsible.
Federighi—who's in charge of implementing this and was busy praising it on stage—is completely blameless. As are all other managers big and small at Apple.
They might manage to pin it all on Alan Dye, who recently jumped ship to Meta.
But what if I want my iPhone to look like Windows Vista?
I actually liked how Vista looked, but it had a lot of artificial sheen that Liquid Glass doesn’t have.
Looks were never Vista’s problem.
I don't remember my Vista installation being this illegible.
I don't think they can or will change something that drastic right away, but I'd wager that there is at least one team, rethinking it.
Maybe a year or two of bug fixing updates, while they entirely refresh liquid glass?
Seems like a BIG job.
Hey, maybe they'll fix the keyboard, too, and then that guy won't have to switch to Android for two years!
A keyboard fix is the only thing I want at this point. It is comically bad.
Apple got brutally frame mogged by the keyboard frat leader
This is both the best and worst comment I’ve ever read on HN.
Why is an oft-wrong rumor site which churns out clickbait left and right being pushed up on HN? There's no story, here. It has no reliable source and nothing coming directly from Apple.
macrumors.com, 9to5mac.com should have been [dead].
Why? They are incredibly amusing news sites that have been around for years, absolutely more correct than not correct. And it is called Mac RUMORS, not Mac CONFIRMED_PRESS_RELEASES. Alas, you should not blindly trust every leak and rumor.
Because people want the rumor to be true
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There are SO many fundamentally bad/broken design decisions in iOS now, from simply infuriating to use elements to downright broken ones.
The amount of times the keyboard just blocks some button, a setting is nested 5/6 menus deep, things that used to be slick no longer just work.
> users [could] interact with Siri and future Apple devices without speaking out loud.. AI systems capable of interpreting facial expressions and subtle muscle movements to understand so-called “silent speech.”
"Olive Juice"
Oh man. That would be incredibly cool. I use dictation all the time on my iPhone, for example I'm dictating this comment right now. It's just almost always faster than typing. But I'm never going to dictate anything at the office or on public transportation. But if I could just hold the phone up closer to my lips and have it transcribe just as well while I "talk" silently, that would be really interesting. And in the same way we've completely normalized people who seem to be talking to themselves, until you realize they're having a conversation over their earbuds, we'll completely normalize people silently mouthing sentences to their phones. What a weird but fascinating idea.
Cool, innovating in ways to make Siri functionally worse. Didn’t think they had another gear.
Israeli AI software that's constantly watching my face and surroundings to read what I'm talking about? If there's anything I do not want, it's this.
And if it detects persistent negative sentiment it triggers a 'bug' in the battery management software that causes the device to explode when in proximity of your face.
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Never considered this but I'd love this feature
I would expect this to be a feature of a specific product, like AR glasses.
It's from the creator of FaceID, so might be possible on other devices.
I'm assuming by now they have realized that they got scammed in this acquisition.
Yeah I'm really looking forward to frantically sticking my tongue out in morse code to subtly communicate with my phone.
I wish Apple would pause the Major Number bumps across all the OSes. Perhaps a 3-year OS update cycle. No Rush. They can still do the Marketing thingies with feature additions and bug fixes, like, “This WWDC is all about the 0.5 update, and you will love it.”
a couple years ago it felt like the iPhone just worked. currently, it's so buggy i can't ignore it. some of these which i encounter every day:
- screen is dimmed when unlocked, then after a minute or so, goes to normal brightness
- touch screen does not work when receiving calls, so i can't answer. same for alarms, where i have to use the volume buttons to snooze the alarm, then touch starts working so i can manually clear it
- alarms not going off, or just being silent. so many time's i've woken up next to my phone being completely silent with the alarm interface being active
- keyboard not appearing sometimes causing layout issues
- using reduced transparency in Apple Music causes a huge empty area to appear in the bottom bar where the dynamic (?) "current song playing" appears
- rearranging icons on the home screen feel like it's a 50/50 chance moving the icon actually succeeds. the other half of the times, the icon just returns to where ever it was before
- re-arranging the control center do not register, or actions are delayed and makes it so un-intuitive what is going on
some design things which are intended which annoy me so much are:
- plugging in a charger will force show you the battery, so you can't use your phone for a few seconds
- hold and dragging the keyboard spacebar to move the cursor has some delay until the keyboard returns to normal, and tapping the spacebar again (when i need to place a spacebar) resets the delay
iMessage and AirDrop is so convenient, and the integration with AirPods is super clean. i would really like to continue using iPhone, but every day i feel somewhat depressed over how laggy iOS is :(
How about fixing their calendar widgets? I didn’t think it was possible to make a non functional calendar. But here we are…
https://lemmy.world/post/18872755
At least not as useless as the windows taskbar calendar. It's nearly a decade without any functionality or integration.
This is the one thing users have asked for for years now. Apparently even Apple eventually listens.
I think the abysmal adoption numbers of the v26 OSes have played a big role here.
Apples own Apps need serious attention. The iOS Podcast app doesn't allow me to delete certain podcasts from the downloads section. Seems like silly bug for the ecosystem that "just works".
I'll believe it when I see it. iOS 26 has been having 5 fps in the home screen all the time and I can see the effect constantly pop up, go away and even spaz out on a 3 year old pro max model. I have a pitch black home screen as well and the glass effect is completely inconherent and looks horrible so would be ideal if glass can be disabled in the homescreen entirely or have the same opaque effect as it is in-apps.
A bug(?) exists to disable liquid ass on the Home Screen that still works in 26.3 - enable Reduce Motion globally in accessibility settings, then add a per app accessibility override for “Home Screen & App Library” with Reduce Motion off, then reboot. Somehow this disables liquid ass throughout the Home Screen, back to iOS 18 gaussian blurs
Apple should focus on security and verifiability. At the moment, when another zero day for iOS is released, users have no way to check if their phones have been compromised.
Meaning from security point of view Apple devices are not trustworthy.
Apple should cease doing security by obscurity.
Tim, honey, darling, baby.
Just do this for like, the next six months. Go in, clear out tech debt, get stuff fixed.
Tell the creative and features guys that they look like hell and need to take a vacation. Unless it's the guy who says you can't make colorful MBP finishes. Just fire that guy.
Do that and you'll have my money for another MBP sooner rather than later.
> iOS 27 'Rave' Update to Clean Up Code, Could Boost Battery Life
I'm trying to imagine a world where, instead of affirmative or negative, we use conditional.
"We could search for a new candidate". "Honey could you go buy some bread ? There isn't any. / Yes honey, i could". "Your salary could raise with 3%". "I'm a journalist. I could write an article if i would". And so on and so forth.
P.S. They forgot the "could" before "update" and "clean".
All I want from Apple is to get rid of that atrocious frosted glass interface. It looks like a Sharper Image catalog from the 90's!
Given that Apple tend to have long periods of crud accumulating and releases becoming slower, buggier and more annoying they should revamp their entire release process and make quality a more prominent part of the release process. Linux did so with its odd/even version numbering to signal which kernels were considered stable and which were development versions.
For each major release cycle the longest part of the cycle should be focused on code quality and cleanup. So that people who depend on the stability of their operating environment can configure the software update process to just wait until a new OS release has gone through a bugfix AND cleanup cycle.
Why spend more time on cleanup that on features? Well, so far it seems to have been the other way around. Which means that everyone has to waste a lot of time while some experimental OS is making your life miserable. People who want to use bleeding edge features can upgrade as soon as a new major release is dropped. But people like me, who depend on their phone and computer to make a living, would rather not be field-testing buggy, slow experimental code.
And not to put too fine a point on it, iOS was crap. And from what I am hearing macOS Tahoe isn't worth the upgrade so I keep clicking away those annoying popups that try to get me to install it.
Yeah, I get it, the guy from marketing isn't going to like it, but we could also stop pretending that every new major release is a gift to humanity. We don't think so and Apple knows it isn't so. Every release comes with dread. What will stop working this time?
It isn't like Apple doesn't have the means to hire developers.
That could is doing a lot of heavy lifting.
If they can't get my keyboard to stop replacing in with inn I don't think they are going to magically fix the battery life hit that comes with every ios update.
Literally all I want from Apple is a year (or multiple) spent laser focused tackling tech debt and improving software performance.
Yep; and all Apple fans ever say is "report feedback!!!" but what is the point when seemingly Apple never gets to their backlog of bugs/broken features? I mean, sure, some big stuff gets fixed, but there is a lot of stuff broken going on years they haven't even touched.
I just madly click on "I Have This Problem Too"
Feedback is more or less a black hole, for the most part. It's rarely paid attention to by a human, and is treated like telemetry. If you want something fixed, it needs to get into the press or go viral.
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I care more about numerous bugs than I do about performance, to be honest. I'm starting to to regret not switching to Android last time I was upgrading my phone. Even if it is the same bugfest, at least I wouldn't have paid premium for the priveledge of using a device that "just doesn't work"
I need three new phones in close future for the family and I think I will go with Google Pixels and GrapheneOS. There is foldable phone available! It’s cheaper, I can deduct phones in full in the same year since the phones are <800€ before taxes (relevant probably only in Germany). And imho Apple’s premium promise is gone with glass design. Too many small errors.
We need another Snow Leopard era.
I want them to have invested in this already so we don't have this miserable shit to deal with.
Just drop the liquid glass farce and you will save 5% battery life already.
ios 27 being ios 26 minus liquid glass is literally the only thing I want from the next ios version.
Same with macOS. I'm sticking with Sequoia, but don't know what to do if macOS 27 turns out to be just as ugly as Tahoe.
Just give me my fucking corners back. I paid good money for them.
I'm sticking with Sonoma as long as they still provide security updates, then i go +1, hoping to skip the whole liquid glass phase.
I'd even settle for it being on a switch, call it "minimal UI" or something, but I have a feeling that Apple doesn't work like that. It's burn-the-boats, we're going all in on Glass and there's no going back.
I would like them to also fix all the weird rendering bugs they introduced in Safari.
Though maybe those are also liquid glass’ fault.
Chrome has them too :)
Yeah, because chrome is required to use -safari- webkit too, apple won't allow alternative browsers on the app store.
Except in the EU, but they don't allow it globally so no sane company is going to invest time into building a browser for iOS while apple is intentionally region-locking the ability to install them.
So yeah, on iOS, rendering bugs on Chrome are quite often apple's fault, and the Chrome team can't fix em.
this would make me so happy!
I wonder if anybody at Apple is bold enough to lose face over this, given that there‘s a leadership shuffle underway.
There's no need to lose face to the vast majority of their customers, who don't read tech blogs or know who Siracusa is.
They can just boldy advance forwarded in a rearward direction and claim whatever they want about it. They've done it multiple times - every new iPhone and iOS has looked "the best and newest" and made the last one that looked the best and newest look old-hat.
They owned their mistake of removing all ports and function keys from MacBook Pros, so there is a chance. That being said, the UI degradation of macOS has been a slow but persistent march for about a decade now, and I don't imagine it will change now.
I thought the person responsible was already gone...
People keep blaming Alan Dye as if he was the only one responsible.
Federighi—who's in charge of implementing this and was busy praising it on stage—is completely blameless. As are all other managers big and small at Apple.
They might manage to pin it all on Alan Dye, who recently jumped ship to Meta.
But what if I want my iPhone to look like Windows Vista?
I actually liked how Vista looked, but it had a lot of artificial sheen that Liquid Glass doesn’t have.
Looks were never Vista’s problem.
I don't remember my Vista installation being this illegible.
I don't think they can or will change something that drastic right away, but I'd wager that there is at least one team, rethinking it.
Maybe a year or two of bug fixing updates, while they entirely refresh liquid glass?
Seems like a BIG job.
Hey, maybe they'll fix the keyboard, too, and then that guy won't have to switch to Android for two years!
A keyboard fix is the only thing I want at this point. It is comically bad.
Apple got brutally frame mogged by the keyboard frat leader
This is both the best and worst comment I’ve ever read on HN.
Why is an oft-wrong rumor site which churns out clickbait left and right being pushed up on HN? There's no story, here. It has no reliable source and nothing coming directly from Apple.
macrumors.com, 9to5mac.com should have been [dead].
Why? They are incredibly amusing news sites that have been around for years, absolutely more correct than not correct. And it is called Mac RUMORS, not Mac CONFIRMED_PRESS_RELEASES. Alas, you should not blindly trust every leak and rumor.
Because people want the rumor to be true
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There are SO many fundamentally bad/broken design decisions in iOS now, from simply infuriating to use elements to downright broken ones.
The amount of times the keyboard just blocks some button, a setting is nested 5/6 menus deep, things that used to be slick no longer just work.
I set alarms on my iPad sometimes, theres a floating popup, you can't dismiss it by clicking away like you would expect, you have to click the x, [image](https://support.apple.com/guide/ipad/set-an-alarm-ipadec8a36...)
Will iOS 28 bring silent voice interface? https://www.newsweek.com/apples-2b-ai-acquisition-could-have...
> users [could] interact with Siri and future Apple devices without speaking out loud.. AI systems capable of interpreting facial expressions and subtle muscle movements to understand so-called “silent speech.”
"Olive Juice"
Oh man. That would be incredibly cool. I use dictation all the time on my iPhone, for example I'm dictating this comment right now. It's just almost always faster than typing. But I'm never going to dictate anything at the office or on public transportation. But if I could just hold the phone up closer to my lips and have it transcribe just as well while I "talk" silently, that would be really interesting. And in the same way we've completely normalized people who seem to be talking to themselves, until you realize they're having a conversation over their earbuds, we'll completely normalize people silently mouthing sentences to their phones. What a weird but fascinating idea.
Cool, innovating in ways to make Siri functionally worse. Didn’t think they had another gear.
Israeli AI software that's constantly watching my face and surroundings to read what I'm talking about? If there's anything I do not want, it's this.
And if it detects persistent negative sentiment it triggers a 'bug' in the battery management software that causes the device to explode when in proximity of your face.
(;-_-)ノ
Never considered this but I'd love this feature
I would expect this to be a feature of a specific product, like AR glasses.
It's from the creator of FaceID, so might be possible on other devices.
I'm assuming by now they have realized that they got scammed in this acquisition.
Yeah I'm really looking forward to frantically sticking my tongue out in morse code to subtly communicate with my phone.
I wish Apple would pause the Major Number bumps across all the OSes. Perhaps a 3-year OS update cycle. No Rush. They can still do the Marketing thingies with feature additions and bug fixes, like, “This WWDC is all about the 0.5 update, and you will love it.”
a couple years ago it felt like the iPhone just worked. currently, it's so buggy i can't ignore it. some of these which i encounter every day: - screen is dimmed when unlocked, then after a minute or so, goes to normal brightness - touch screen does not work when receiving calls, so i can't answer. same for alarms, where i have to use the volume buttons to snooze the alarm, then touch starts working so i can manually clear it - alarms not going off, or just being silent. so many time's i've woken up next to my phone being completely silent with the alarm interface being active - keyboard not appearing sometimes causing layout issues - using reduced transparency in Apple Music causes a huge empty area to appear in the bottom bar where the dynamic (?) "current song playing" appears - rearranging icons on the home screen feel like it's a 50/50 chance moving the icon actually succeeds. the other half of the times, the icon just returns to where ever it was before - re-arranging the control center do not register, or actions are delayed and makes it so un-intuitive what is going on
some design things which are intended which annoy me so much are: - plugging in a charger will force show you the battery, so you can't use your phone for a few seconds - hold and dragging the keyboard spacebar to move the cursor has some delay until the keyboard returns to normal, and tapping the spacebar again (when i need to place a spacebar) resets the delay
iMessage and AirDrop is so convenient, and the integration with AirPods is super clean. i would really like to continue using iPhone, but every day i feel somewhat depressed over how laggy iOS is :(
How about fixing their calendar widgets? I didn’t think it was possible to make a non functional calendar. But here we are… https://lemmy.world/post/18872755
At least not as useless as the windows taskbar calendar. It's nearly a decade without any functionality or integration.
Less than a month after Microsoft announcing this for Windows https://www.theverge.com/tech/870045/microsoft-windows-11-is...
This is the one thing users have asked for for years now. Apparently even Apple eventually listens.
I think the abysmal adoption numbers of the v26 OSes have played a big role here.
Apples own Apps need serious attention. The iOS Podcast app doesn't allow me to delete certain podcasts from the downloads section. Seems like silly bug for the ecosystem that "just works".
I'll believe it when I see it. iOS 26 has been having 5 fps in the home screen all the time and I can see the effect constantly pop up, go away and even spaz out on a 3 year old pro max model. I have a pitch black home screen as well and the glass effect is completely inconherent and looks horrible so would be ideal if glass can be disabled in the homescreen entirely or have the same opaque effect as it is in-apps.
A bug(?) exists to disable liquid ass on the Home Screen that still works in 26.3 - enable Reduce Motion globally in accessibility settings, then add a per app accessibility override for “Home Screen & App Library” with Reduce Motion off, then reboot. Somehow this disables liquid ass throughout the Home Screen, back to iOS 18 gaussian blurs
Apple should focus on security and verifiability. At the moment, when another zero day for iOS is released, users have no way to check if their phones have been compromised.
Meaning from security point of view Apple devices are not trustworthy.
Apple should cease doing security by obscurity.
Tim, honey, darling, baby.
Just do this for like, the next six months. Go in, clear out tech debt, get stuff fixed.
Tell the creative and features guys that they look like hell and need to take a vacation. Unless it's the guy who says you can't make colorful MBP finishes. Just fire that guy.
Do that and you'll have my money for another MBP sooner rather than later.
> iOS 27 'Rave' Update to Clean Up Code, Could Boost Battery Life
I'm trying to imagine a world where, instead of affirmative or negative, we use conditional.
"We could search for a new candidate". "Honey could you go buy some bread ? There isn't any. / Yes honey, i could". "Your salary could raise with 3%". "I'm a journalist. I could write an article if i would". And so on and so forth.
P.S. They forgot the "could" before "update" and "clean".
All I want from Apple is to get rid of that atrocious frosted glass interface. It looks like a Sharper Image catalog from the 90's!
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