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14-year-old Miles Wu folded origami pattern that holds 10k times its own weight

Don't get hung up on "14 year old". Pay attention to "took up origami 6 years ago". That's 6 years of passionate learning, experimenting and improvement.

2 hours agogivemeethekeys

Also, ‘years’ tend to be a lot more hours for kids, and each hour yields more learning due to neuroplasticity. I learned so much faster at 15 than I do at 35. I know more now, which often more than makes up for slower learning, but I can’t learn difficult novel subjects in depth as fast as I once did.

I’m glad I learned OS in depth during high school via Gentoo linux. And engineering/physics/math in college. It’s very easy to assimilate any new knowledge which can be understood through those areas of first principles.

But learning more advanced math is quite a task now.

an hour agonerdsniper

Can you really say that unless you switched fields multiple times? Of course you'll pick up on math and physics faster in high school than in college or postgrad, but that's because the problems get way, way harder as you progress. I've found that even in my late 30s I can still easily pick up new skills outside my field of expertise as long as I start with the basics that could also be picked up by a high-schooler. I started learning a new language last year and thanks to modern study apps, I actually find it easier today. Of course it will still take a long time to become an expert, but I'm not sure it would need more total hours than if I had started 20 years ago. It just gets more difficult to allocate the necessary hours for learning.

an hour agosigmoid10

> Can you really say that unless you switched fields multiple times?

I have ;-) far too many times! Even going back and taking undergrad math coursework that my engineering curriculum didn't have like Discrete Math or Statistics got a lot harder than calculus / differential equations was when I was younger. I felt like I got less out of each hour, and also couldn't put in as many hours - not just because I have more responsibilities, but also because my brain just gets tired after fewer hours.

an hour agonerdsniper

Gentoo is what really made Linux click for me, too. I'm still very, very glad for that and remain a loyal user to this day!

Although I've had to restrict it to the 2 desktop machines. Maybe I should give it a shot again on the laptops, now that binary packages are universally available...

14 minutes agoavhception

I don't know - i'm 33 ~ now - recently with AI learning is much easier - don't get me wrong I definitely won't say that the brain does not slow down - but I'd definitely argue that we have advantages over kids - be it discipline, knowing how to learn ; and stuff like that - for example let's take coq which is I suppose one of the hardest thing we can learn - you can decompose it in ways myself as a kid or as a 20yo wouldn't even be able to. What I mean is that there is a lot of complexities or stuff i would get stuck upon that I just fly over today and know I'm alright - much better ability to focus in a sense

44 minutes ago6r17

I learned coq as a teenager because the name was funny and one defined everything in terms of the `succ` function.

Never underestimate our motivation.

36 minutes agojjmarr

I'm learning better now the older I get. More good'erer.

34 minutes agoglobalnode

Also don't get hung up on "folded". He hasn't innovated a design (it was invented by a Japanese astrophysicist, Miura-Ori), merely measured sustainable load across different designs.

2 hours agouoaei

i hear he didn't even produce the paper himself

an hour agocroisillon

Being able to hold 10x the weight of paper doesn't sound so impressive that it would require an astrophysicist to invent it.

I was more ready to accept the headline if it had been invented by the kid.

Are you telling me you can't roll up 10 origami papers and stand them on a reasonably stable origami pattern?

an hour agoavadodin

it's 10k, 10,000, not 10

an hour agoretube

lol

that makes way more sense

not enough coffee bcak

41 minutes agoavadodin

He literally did fold all the folds himself. He didn't even get an LLM to reskin VS Code for him and apply to Y Combinator.

an hour agoForHackernews

"Miura" is the name of the astrophysicist. "Ori" (折り) just means "fold", as in "origami" = "fold+paper".

2 hours agonine_k

Rather than age, isn't this more a trait of autism than anything else?

an hour agodottjt

> isn't this more a trait of autism than anything else?

No. It’s a sign of drive and discipline.

The latter, specifically the focus element, overlaps with autism. But more broadly it does not. (There are a lot of impressive teenagers applying themselves diligently to impressive ends. Most of them are not on the spectrum, though I suspect mild autism is slightly over-represented in that set.)

an hour agoJumpCrisscross
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an hour ago

And this is all you can come up with this story?

an hour agodbacar

Not all autism presents with intense narrow interests, and not all expressions of intense narrow interest are autism.

Would you say the same for a teenage sports prodigy?

an hour agoanonym29

Of course. But obviously I wouldn't be referring to those other types of autism in this case. Why would I?

an hour agodottjt

You're assuming that autism is always going to be a disadvantage. In fact, the obsessive focus mirrors scientific practice. Good luck to him, I respect him.

7 minutes agonephihaha
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The key here is scale. What works in inches often falls apart at feet. The structure is holding about 33 psi over the area (which is rigidly supported from below), much more along the contact edges. By comparison balsa wood can support significantly more pressure (varies, but well over 100psi) but doesn’t concentrate pressure on edges.

Is there anything useful about this? Maybe as an inexpensive(?) core for high strength skins?

an hour agomlhpdx

> Is there anything useful about this?

Directly: no, the end of the article has a nice list of reasons why, reframed as random musings.

Miles, if you're reading this, it's useful. You're already doing what .1% of people do. I call them journeys and emphasize they're a million steps without clear direction. You're just on step N < 1,000,000. This works out, in some way, you already know it's not literally "yes this is sooo useful that we should start autofolding it at 1000x scale". It will work out. maybe as exactly this, this with some tweaks, or the $25K helps you do $X, or the publicity helps you do $Y.

2 minutes agorefulgentis

> The key here is scale. What works in inches often falls apart at feet

Does that mean we could increase the orders of magnitude if we made it smaller? Lots of tiny stuff needs mechanical support. And lots of folded small things agglomerated is another way to say biology.

an hour agoJumpCrisscross

Closer to "mineralogy", plenty of things are both smaller and tougher (on this "support its own weight" metric) than cells or proteins with their squishy folding rules.

Even if we include things like hydroxyapatite in teeth, or even lignin, those are more like byproducts of biology than active biology itself.

27 minutes agoTerr_

I remember cutting an IKEA desk top down one side and discovering the inside was just corrugated cardboard under a few layers of laminate. it was trivial to break by shearing it but in a typical construction where the weight is mostly up/down it was obviously sufficient - until you cut the rigid sides off that is...

While this probably does have incredible Z-axis strength, I can't imagine it being very strong with any kind of lateral loads.

an hour agotgtweak

That the construction method of most hollow-core doors in your house.

28 minutes agojnellis

I wish the parents could be given a bit of credit. Instead we pretend the kid was doing this all solo... Its way less impressive when the parents are guiding them.

But the parents are doing lots of unappreciated work here.

/parent here

a minute agoPlatoIsADisease

Does this shape hold up good weight distribution properties when 3D-printed? Maybe this could be huge for 3D-printing mostly hollow, yet strong parts that require in fewer plastic and time spent.

30 minutes agodietr1ch

That’s already a thing. Infill. There’s lots of variations of infill that all have different strengths and weaknesses.

16 minutes agosen

So what is the ideal pattern and how can you build a shelter with it?

I think it would be fun to build a playhouse out of it.

2 hours agoMagicMoonlight

Fun when these things hold a surprising amount of weight. Reminds me when these two engineers on Lego Masters made a bridge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WT6TB15yE

2 hours agopants2

wtf, why lego, whhhy? "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"

edit: What, they geoblocked a ~1min clip, wow.

2 hours agosysworld

I live in the U.S.: I can watch it.

What is "your country?"

an hour agobookofjoe

It's Lego Masters USA (Fox), rather than the Lego company itself, so I imagine they're being extra-careful with licensing.

I'm in the UK and it's geoblocked for me.

an hour agoabanana

Looks kinda like an egg carton to me. So if an empty egg carton weighs 50g, that's like saying you could stack 500kg on top. Pretty impressive.

an hour agohooloovoo_zoo

Triangles together strong!

2 hours agoPunchyHamster

Ugh, emergency shelter? We already have 50 million emergency shelter designs. It's ok to say this has no practical uses but is very cool.

43 minutes agoIshKebab

> It's ok to say this has no practical uses but is very cool.

Agreed. But it doesn't go viral as much. Every cool robotics research goes with a comment that says "it could be useful for disaster response in a post-apocalyptic world where the conditions have changed in such a way that only my robot can save us".

2 minutes agopalata

It can hold a considerable amount of weight then that may have application for areas where sand, snow or even rocks may be a problem

9 minutes agonephihaha

Could concept be applied to submarine vehicles to exponential increase their resistance to pressure at depth?

2 hours agock2

This is weight distribution on a flat plain. Think of Roman Arches. On a curved plain, weight distribution of THIS origami falls apart as pressure is added horizontally (not just vertically).

2 hours agocodeddesign

what if, instead you just placed whatever weight you wanted onto a flat unfolded piece of paper.

an hour agoAeroi

what a smart kid! wishing him all the best

35 minutes agomoomoo11

Smart teen :)

an hour agoSilentM68

Where can we read about the other submissions?

3 hours agoamelius

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2 hours agotl2do

These teen science fair winners almost never amount to anything exceptional, and are a product intense parental supervision. Most universities have wised up.

an hour agoxqcgrek2

Sometimes, but I do find his story inspiring. He has taken an age old craft and demonstrated it may have practical applications. I hope he can patent some design based off this and then he can make some money off it. (Yes, I know he didn't invent this particular fold.)