Unfortunately, Windows' entrenchment means that it's gonna be extremely painful to return to computers that work for the users again. I have personally moved my personal PC to Linux, but what is really needed is a back-to-basics OS that integrates modern usability and design with reduced bloat.
You could only get the funding such a project requires if you promised that it would make an infinite amount of money, which would directly undercut the goals of making a debloated, usable operating system. yay, capitalism.
One of the reasons I no longer work on windows
1. Log onto a server
2. Need a browser to run some stupid tool, everything besides edge is removed
3. Edge shows "setting up profile" with multiple steps (cant be skipped ofc) and after setup it goes to new tab showing shit ton of ads and stuff lagging the RDP session
explain that, macroslop
My favorite part of that dance is, "Do you want to import from Chrome? [no] Should we import your data from chrome? [no] Ok, time to import your data from Chrome. [skip]" It asks you three times right in a row. Really weird.
My favourite part is saying "Reject all" to the cookies and sh*t on my new tab before I even open any website.
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I stopped using windows on my devices long ago in favor of Linux but when I periodically have to use it for IT assistance for family I am flabbergasted at how hostile and manipulative it is to the purported owner of the device. I can’t believe things have got this bad.
SCOOBE has been a thing since Windows 10. I got hit with it again just this week on a machine that's run W10 for nearly half a decade. "Let's install O365! And move your stuff to OneDrive! And replace Firefox with Edge! And use your Android phone to connect to your PC!"
And this is why I will never build another Windows box again once I replace my VR headset, nor have I recommended Microsoft products in Enterprises for several years, now. It's still my area of expertise, but the company is - somehow - more hostile to its customers than Oracle.
This is the cue for IT to make the switch from Windows.
Wow, I didn’t know you could kill these in the registry, will definitely do this. They are absolutely maddening in my case, which is where I only boot into my Windows SSD sporadically, so there seems to be some time out so I get it basically every single time I boot Windows. It’s really not making me want to use it any more than the absolute minimum…
This isn't exclusive to Windows 11, I also got those on Windows 10.
If I were a multi-billionaire, I'd pay people to follow around Microsoft executives with a megaphone. They'd just shout "Do you want to save that to OneDrive?!" every few seconds right near their ears. Indefinitely, all day long, all night long. Forever. Of course, there would be no relief. My request wouldn't make sense and there would be nothing they could do to make them cease
No, you gotta give them a chance to tell you to stop! That way you can tell them "pausing setup requests for now" and then go back to harassing them a few minutes later
Start a GoFundMe! That idea deserves to see the light of day. Also: Follow pretty much every software product manager around Silicon valley with a megaphone shouting "Do you want me to keep shouting at you? [YES | ASK AGAIN LATER]"
This is so extremely annoying when paired with the forced auto restarts. Here is how it works:
1. I walk away from the computer with a bunch of my tabs and programs running. I also have a couple of servers running (docker compose).
2. Microsoft decides my work is worthless and restarts the PC to install updates to fix their own shoddy programming.
3. After 3-4 restarts, it finally drops back into the login screen. So my open apps, tabs, servers are all gone, and will not be running. Basically means I cannot rely on the PC being online if I am outside.
4. And on top of that, even when I enter the password, it will pretend to login, but stops on this spam screen with the anti-pattern "remind me later" button. Every single time. I've told them no for at least 50 times. Oh and this screen blocks every startup program from loading, even though I have signed in. So I have to clear it before docker will load.
I always disable automatic updates as a group policy and re-enable them when I'm ready to install them for this very reason.
If you disable it as outlined in the article it will not come back IME. It is ridiculous and frustrating that you have to do it, and IMO it's extremely poorly named and placed but it does work at least.
Docker runs better on Linux. And Linux doesn't reboot unless told to do so. And you can SSH into it rather than run some sort of long winded GUI. Oh, and it doesn't phone home all the time with 'telemetry'.
Don't Windows Services run behind the login window (when configured to do so)?
Could you set up Docker that way?
Windows 11 is for video games and Excel, not running docker compose and servers. Windows Server is for running servers.
Coverage is still partial because some VERY popular games do not run on Linux due to anti-cheat
I'd say that coverage is very, very substantial, but incomplete because some games use anti-cheat that is either extremely invasive and heavily relies on Windows internals, or is anti-cheat that the devs have configured to reject running in Proton.
Yes, it's very good. However, basically-every-current-multiplayer-shooter is a big missing category.
Do you think gamers want any of that?
Linux is for running servers
If you’re some linux hardliner then that’s what your world looks like, sure. Windows Server is for running Windows servers.
My clients didn't get the memo
Have they gotten the memo reminding them “schedule and execute your updates to avoid waking up to a login screen”? I feel sorry for you having to work with clients who run production workloads on Windows 11.
Except developers run docker compose locally all the time.
And even if I am just using Excel, my work still deserves to be respected by the operating system.
Sure, they do. Then design your workflow in a way that tolerates an outage. What if electricity goes out? A lightning strike? It’s a no-brainier.
Excel stores unsaved data in temp files on disk, just like your vim. Many Windows apps do because of the described behaviour. Use the right tool for the right job.
Unfortunately, Windows' entrenchment means that it's gonna be extremely painful to return to computers that work for the users again. I have personally moved my personal PC to Linux, but what is really needed is a back-to-basics OS that integrates modern usability and design with reduced bloat.
You could only get the funding such a project requires if you promised that it would make an infinite amount of money, which would directly undercut the goals of making a debloated, usable operating system. yay, capitalism.
One of the reasons I no longer work on windows
1. Log onto a server
2. Need a browser to run some stupid tool, everything besides edge is removed
3. Edge shows "setting up profile" with multiple steps (cant be skipped ofc) and after setup it goes to new tab showing shit ton of ads and stuff lagging the RDP session
explain that, macroslop
My favorite part of that dance is, "Do you want to import from Chrome? [no] Should we import your data from chrome? [no] Ok, time to import your data from Chrome. [skip]" It asks you three times right in a row. Really weird.
My favourite part is saying "Reject all" to the cookies and sh*t on my new tab before I even open any website.
I stopped using windows on my devices long ago in favor of Linux but when I periodically have to use it for IT assistance for family I am flabbergasted at how hostile and manipulative it is to the purported owner of the device. I can’t believe things have got this bad.
SCOOBE has been a thing since Windows 10. I got hit with it again just this week on a machine that's run W10 for nearly half a decade. "Let's install O365! And move your stuff to OneDrive! And replace Firefox with Edge! And use your Android phone to connect to your PC!"
And this is why I will never build another Windows box again once I replace my VR headset, nor have I recommended Microsoft products in Enterprises for several years, now. It's still my area of expertise, but the company is - somehow - more hostile to its customers than Oracle.
This is the cue for IT to make the switch from Windows.
Wow, I didn’t know you could kill these in the registry, will definitely do this. They are absolutely maddening in my case, which is where I only boot into my Windows SSD sporadically, so there seems to be some time out so I get it basically every single time I boot Windows. It’s really not making me want to use it any more than the absolute minimum…
This isn't exclusive to Windows 11, I also got those on Windows 10.
If I were a multi-billionaire, I'd pay people to follow around Microsoft executives with a megaphone. They'd just shout "Do you want to save that to OneDrive?!" every few seconds right near their ears. Indefinitely, all day long, all night long. Forever. Of course, there would be no relief. My request wouldn't make sense and there would be nothing they could do to make them cease
No, you gotta give them a chance to tell you to stop! That way you can tell them "pausing setup requests for now" and then go back to harassing them a few minutes later
Start a GoFundMe! That idea deserves to see the light of day. Also: Follow pretty much every software product manager around Silicon valley with a megaphone shouting "Do you want me to keep shouting at you? [YES | ASK AGAIN LATER]"
This is so extremely annoying when paired with the forced auto restarts. Here is how it works:
1. I walk away from the computer with a bunch of my tabs and programs running. I also have a couple of servers running (docker compose).
2. Microsoft decides my work is worthless and restarts the PC to install updates to fix their own shoddy programming.
3. After 3-4 restarts, it finally drops back into the login screen. So my open apps, tabs, servers are all gone, and will not be running. Basically means I cannot rely on the PC being online if I am outside.
4. And on top of that, even when I enter the password, it will pretend to login, but stops on this spam screen with the anti-pattern "remind me later" button. Every single time. I've told them no for at least 50 times. Oh and this screen blocks every startup program from loading, even though I have signed in. So I have to clear it before docker will load.
I always disable automatic updates as a group policy and re-enable them when I'm ready to install them for this very reason.
If you disable it as outlined in the article it will not come back IME. It is ridiculous and frustrating that you have to do it, and IMO it's extremely poorly named and placed but it does work at least.
Docker runs better on Linux. And Linux doesn't reboot unless told to do so. And you can SSH into it rather than run some sort of long winded GUI. Oh, and it doesn't phone home all the time with 'telemetry'.
Don't Windows Services run behind the login window (when configured to do so)?
Could you set up Docker that way?
Windows 11 is for video games and Excel, not running docker compose and servers. Windows Server is for running servers.
Coverage is still partial because some VERY popular games do not run on Linux due to anti-cheat
I'd say that coverage is very, very substantial, but incomplete because some games use anti-cheat that is either extremely invasive and heavily relies on Windows internals, or is anti-cheat that the devs have configured to reject running in Proton.
Yes, it's very good. However, basically-every-current-multiplayer-shooter is a big missing category.
Do you think gamers want any of that?
Linux is for running servers
If you’re some linux hardliner then that’s what your world looks like, sure. Windows Server is for running Windows servers.
My clients didn't get the memo
Have they gotten the memo reminding them “schedule and execute your updates to avoid waking up to a login screen”? I feel sorry for you having to work with clients who run production workloads on Windows 11.
Except developers run docker compose locally all the time.
And even if I am just using Excel, my work still deserves to be respected by the operating system.
Sure, they do. Then design your workflow in a way that tolerates an outage. What if electricity goes out? A lightning strike? It’s a no-brainier.
Excel stores unsaved data in temp files on disk, just like your vim. Many Windows apps do because of the described behaviour. Use the right tool for the right job.